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change. and maybe the one to watch today, we will be closely. speaker boehner fresh out the caucus meeting in the final fresh of the jockeying to replace his good friend eric cantor. good morning to you. so much to get to. we start at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. speaker boehner and the rest of the congressional leadership will be at the white house this afternoon to talk about the way forward in iraq. all of this as fighting continues to ramp up across the country. isis made significant gains toward the capital baghdad overnight. but are not there yet. this morning the iraqi army and militants are fighting over the country's largest oil refinery. and we've learned now that president obama is taking manned u.s. air strikes off the table. today he'll try to find a way forward amid some tumbling poll numbers and former vice president dick cheney writing this morning, rarely has a u.s.

president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many. secretary of state john kerry already briefing senators this morning. joining me now one of the senators, chris murphy from connecticut. he sits on the foreign relation committee. just finished meeting with secretary kerry. so, senator, let's start there. we heard from chuck todd a short time ago. front page headline in the "wall street journal". i'm sure you've seen it. air strikes ruled out for now. what did you get out of secretary kerry this morning? what is the way forward at this point? >> well, i think there are conflicting reports as to whether the air strikes been fully ruled out. secretary kerry made the case to a group of senators that met with him. that isis is a force to be reckoned with. a source that can present a risk to the united states if you are essentially allowing a haven for terrorists to be established between iraq and syria. that could present real problems to the united.

maybe not tomorrow, but down the line. there clearly is a temperature out there among the american public that is not going to allow for a new insertion of u.s. major military activity into iraq. so we are all waiting to hear what the president's proposal is. but secretary kerry made it clear this morning this is not a problem we can ignore. it could be another terrorist training ground. isis has designed, ultimately on the united states, not just on the maliki's government. it's something we need to pay attention to. >> it sound like secretary kerry gave the group of senators the impression that manned air strikes right-hand turn o s are? >> i've seen that report this morning. we did not hear that directly from secretary kerry. >> what did the secretary say about president maliki's role in all of this? >> well, listen, the reality is -- and i truly believe this. these republican complaints that

this is a consequence are withdrawal is nonsense. what is happening in iraq today is a consequence of our invasion. the real city we took the lid off a century old dispute between sunni and shiite that maliki refused to get under control. whether we stayed an additional six months or six years. i don't know maliki can survive if iraq is to survive. we may need new leadership there that is willing to reach out to the sunni. we certainly shouldn't, as a united states government, have any insertion of military force, ire strike or otherwise without a commitment from maliki to change his ways or a commitment to insert new leadership in the country. >> senator, the crisis, as you know, the crisis in iraq is hitting president obama pretty hard now. in a new nbc news wall street journal poll his approval rating

is at the lowest point ever. 41%. here is a number that a lot of folks are paying close attention to now. 4 54% of americans say president obama can no longer lead and get the job done. what does the president need to do. what can he do to turn those numbers around? >> well, listen, there used to be a saying that all politics stopped at the water's edge. we used to have a lot more bipartisan cooperation when it came to solving these problems abroad. and, you know, you referenced in your opening this column by dick cheney how preprocessous china any would criticize the government for something that the bush created in iraq. which, by the way, is in part responsible for spilling over the shiite-sunni conflict. i wish republicans would acknowledge the president has done incredible jobs with

difficult circumstance he inherited from president bush. could he -- would he have done some things differently looking back? absolutely. there should be a little bit more bipartisan precious of tap the mess he inherited. >> what things done differently? >> i would argue that we should have pushed in iraq a little bit harder for maliki to reach out to the sign any partners. the reality it's possible we couldn't have made a difference there. but it wasn't going to be u.s. troops there that were going to make the difference. it was going to be an earlier diplomatic effort to try to get the two sides working together in receipt to spect. i think we under estimated how committed maliki was to scoring political points. >> you introduced a new bill to prevent people with temporary restraining orders from buying

guns. right now people are only restricted if they have a permanent straining order. what is the latest on the bill. any hope it is gets through? >> i represent newtown, connecticut. my life is committed to that. we're trying to do something more limited which is saying when a domestic abuser has a temporary retraining order they shouldn't be able to buy a gun. i want any friend of the nra to tell me that a domestic abuser should be able to buy a gun with a restraining order. hopefully we can get some bipartisan agreement on the idea. >> connecticut senator chris murphy. we'll leave it there. thank you for your time. let's turn back to iraq for more on the big meeting about the strategy at the white house later today. let get to white house correspondent kristin walker. given the rocky relationship between washington, between iraq's government. do you get a sense that any

action that the united states might take in iraq would be to support prime minister maliki or simply the movement of the militants? >> i think it'll be a little bit of both. here is what we know right now. president obama is going to meet with congressional leaders, as you pointed out, later today. i've been told that he has not made a final determination about his path forward in iraq. so he's going to update those congressional leaders on his thinking. we know that he is not going to put poboots on the ground. as the senator mentioned, there's no public appetite for that. he's leaning away from the broad air strikes. that is what sources here are saying. if the president does decide to take military action, craig, i think this nuance is important. it could come in the form of drone strikes. more targeted strikes. one of the challenges is with that is determining and getting accurate intelligence to make sure that any civilian casualties are kept to a minimum or taken off the table all together. so i think that those are some

of the things that president obama is looking at. i think you're going to -- when he does come out unannounced a final proposal here long-term solutions as well. that might include beefing up intelligence. also beefing up further the u.s. presence at the embassy there in iraq. >> in addition to iraq, we talked about some of the president's poll numbers. you have some positive news in the benghazi capture. a lot to talk about. what can we expect from jay c h carney's final briefing. free pass or fire works? >> i don't think he's going to get a free pass just because it's his last briefing. i don't anticipate josh earnest who is going to take over for jay will get a free pass on the first briefing. there are big issues on the table right now like iraq. i anticipate today, the correspondents will try to nail down carney where president obama is right now thinking about iraq. and you mentioned the seizure of

the suspect in benghazi. i suspect some of the questions is why did it take so long. the suspect was not hiding. he gave an interview. i will be in the chair. you'll want to tune in. it's supposed to start at 12:45 times it -- >> most times. >> yes. changing of the guard here at the white house. we're paying attention to the briefing. >> kristin walker. she'll be at the carney briefing. we'll be checking with you later in the day. thanks, as always. let's go live to iraq to check on the situation amonocontinues to standby for us. i want to get your take on the sense aman, the sense that militants are are going to reach back. they probably don't have the power to take the city. how could they effectively cripple the capital? >> well, craig, when you talk about the militants, you have to

include now the militants have been fused with former generals and former members of the saddam hussein's army. form ee ee ee ee eer -- there a reinforcements from the iraqi army called up shiite malaysias. how they can cripple the city with the attacks they've been known to carry out which is suicide bombings, assassinations, drive by shooting. they can penetrate or recruit people from inside the city. there's no shortage of weapons in iraq. they have a lot of tools at their disposal to make life in iraq extremely, particularly in the capital extremely uncomfortable, extremely dangerous. we've seen it in the past the peak of the country's civil war that is a real possibility in baghdad. >> i know you spend a fair amount of your time on the

ground talking to locals. what are you hearing from iraqis about the kind of help they want from us or do they want a great deal of intervention from america? >> that depends on who you ask. unfortunately america doesn't have a good track record. many of those fleeing moe sole and the areas they reject any type of american intervention or military intervention. they blame iran for what is happening in the country. if you ask those that are sympathetic to the prime minister maliki and others they're putting it in the context of a war on terror. they want to see the united states standby the em battled prime minister in whatever capacity in addition to what the iranian government has said. it would get involved in iraq. it had to protect the interests of the shiite faith and shrines that are important here. >> thanks, as always.

coming up who is can tal will. the lone suspect. we'll dive into his background later. also, what hillary clinton is saying about his capture. it's not the only thing hillary clinton is talking about. >> i want to see and the evidence. >> you want to wait and try it? >> she got the pot question! >> has she smoked or did she not inhale? one of the lighter moments from hillary clinton's media blitz next. uption on my skin uption on my skin and burning. i'd lift my arm and the pain back here was excruciating. when i went to the doctor his first question was "did you have chickenpox?" i thought it was something that, you know, old people got.

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as she continues to meet the round on her book tour. clinton at the helm on 9/11, two years ago, when the attack happened. >> i took responsibility for being at the head of the state department at that time. now that doesn't mean that i made every decision, because i obviously did not. but it does mean i feel deeply and very personally about the losses that we incured. >> perry, let me start with you, sir. hillary would have been asked about benghazi no matter what. politically, what was the headline from her response? >> i thought the thing she said was interesting. she was pressed on what she did she know and when did she know it. and the video, and the argument of the video she said, quote, it was the fog of war. i think she'll use the phrase we were confused.

it was the fog of war. something people can understand as a way of susan rice, hillary clinton, the whole administration was not sure what happened initially. i think it was an important thing for her to explain. the interviews have been about her trying to explain what did she know and the administration mislead the country. i think it was a useful way to frame it. >> a good chunk of the interview was devoted to benghazi. take a look at the review, jackie, by conservative john from fox news. mrs. clinton looked composed and confident in interview. did going on folk help hillary clinton? >> it was very clear hillary clinton was well prepared for the benghazi questions. it's something fox news talks about a lot. it was clear she was ready to answer the questions. i think that preparation definitely helped her in that case. >> not all benghazi yesterday. a couple of lighter moments.

hillary clinton came face to face with the rnc squirrel. it's the squirrel that has been following her around. she gave the squirrel a copy of her memoir, apparently. i don't know if he could read it through the outfit. then on the subject of pot. giving a much different response than her husband so famously gave some years ago. this is the pot exchange. >> you want to try it? ever smoke pot. >> no. that -- i didn't do it when i was young. i'm not going to start now. >> we will not get into the believability of the answer. was that her i did not inhale moment. is that what we saw? be it was. it was a good lighter moment. for the interviews, the almost prosecution of starts where the interview diane presses her about benghazi. it's one of the moments she got beyond benghazi.

said something funny about pot. also important to know note she made news in terms of politics and policy as well. she all but said she's comfortable with what is happening in colorado and other states you see more legalization. she's where the president is now. she used to be someone opposed to pot legalization is now saying let's try it in the states, let's see what happens. it could be a good idea. >> one of the major headlines, jackie, out of the new wall street journal poll is on the question of would you vote for hillary clinton. some very interesting poll numbers. almost certain 23. probably 15. no chance 37%, and views on hilary across party lines positive, negative. there are the numbers there. 78% of democrats view her favorably. 11% of republicans view her favorably versus 38% of independent viewers have a

negative view of hillary clinton. what can she do to flip the numbers? particularly on the independent republican side? >> i don't know if she's going to be able to flip on the republican side. she's been a polarizing figure for republicans for a long time. i don't see it changing if she runs for poll. one of the interesting point of the poll she had high numbers of secretary of state. particularly before benghazi. she wasn't necessarily a political figure people viewed her a different way. the minute she starts in the public arena again we're looking at lower approval numbers. people view their politicians and political figures differently once they might have to vote for them. >> which might explain why the campaign -- noncampaign continues to go full steam ahead. thanks to you both. we appreciate your time. perry and jackie. gm's ceo mary barra getting red did toy testify at the house hearing after yet another

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barra's questioning. >> i think it will be interesting the latest recall does involve another set of ignition switches, and it also involves an ignition switch that an engineer by the name of ray degeorge owe had involvement in. he was involved in the ignition switches that started this whole crisis. so i think it's very possible that you'll see a lot of questions being asked today by congressman to mary barra about the additional recall and what other ignition switches that need to be address. >> what is it going to take for the lawmakers to be satisfied with not only what they hear from her today but the change she has made as a result of that internal report? >> well, that's another interesting question. gm has, by many accounts, has done a lot of things in the last two months or so. they've created the new safety

position. appointed by a guy of jeff boyer to. it created the internal council that will review all kinds of safety issues. they have essentially fired or let go of 15 employees that were involved in the ignition switch crisis 5 to 10 years ago. they have taken a lot of actions, of course, you mentioned, i mean, the 325-page report by antwon -- an attorney will testify today that was scathing and tore apart gm's culture. and mary barra held a town hall meeting urging employees to take it seriously. and has promised to change the corporate culture. you know, so i'm sure there will be a lot of congressman that won't be satisfied, but you will see what more gm needs to do to satisfy them. >> brent, thanks. and mary barra set to testify in

a few moments. we have our eyes on that and something else that came across breaking news to tell you about involving the washington redskins. nfl's washington redskins and the trademark. the u.s. patented trademark office announced it is cancelled the six trademarks for the name of the football team. i want to bring in pete williams. first of all, practically what does this all mean? i'm reading here they refer to it -- >> let me explain it. i think the quickest way is get straightforward explay neigh. what it means that the trademark registration is cancelled. it's not protected. the redskins can use it. but they can't sue anybody if somebody else uses their trademark. so as a practical matter, immediately it changes nothing. secondly, it's the second time it's happened. the redskins can appeal. the last time they appealed federal government struck it down and said there wasn't enough evidence. this time the trademark war

tried to build more evidence. it's going to be appealed. it's another black mark for the redskins. but it doesn't change anything. they can still use their trademark but for now it's not protected if somebody else uses it. there's no legal recourse for the redskins. >> again, it looks like the patented trademark called it disparaging to native americans. the appeal process continues. >> right. >> pete williams, thanks. an update on the story we've been covering a lot this week. overnight not one, but two executions took place. the first in the united states in nearly two months since clayton lockett's botched lethal injection in oklahoma. marcus wellons was executed in georgia after his last-minute appeals for clemency failed. she was convicted and sentenced in death to 1993 for raping and strangling india roberts in 1989. john wynnefield was executed in

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reporter after the attacks. while. poking fun at the american and libyan government. i want to bring in evan coleman. let's start with the guy is. can abu khattala? >> he's an islamist malicious leader. he formed his militia. and he became a part part of the militia that sent people to fight in syria, afghanistan, ma mali, the whole nine yards. he spent most his life in prison. he's someone that has a strong dislike for the united. he's strongly disliked the u.s. and the u.s. foreign policy. there's a lot of compelling evidence that remains to be proven. compelling allegations that he played a direct role on the consulate and the benghazi and the cia annex attack. >> he's given a couple of interview. he said, quote, al qaeda is not

something to be ashamed of. al qaeda is people who are devout protecting their religion and people. america is the terrorist. does this guy -- does she have an extensive terror network? does he have at lot of followers. there was one loner and lived with his mom. >> while the group does not have al qaeda. he was not trained in afghanistan. he was not trained by al qaeda's operatives. it's a self-starter. we're seeing this now in syria and iraq. we're see and al qaeda group pop up that isn't tied to the leadership. it's doing the own thing. she a threat. he has fighters. a lot of people don't realize this but a large proportion of the foreign fighters that are going to syria are libyans. and how are they getting there? because of it.

they c it's because of on star elsha ree ya. before i get to colonel jack. try them in the civilian court versus sending him to guantanamo bay. the thinking. >> the thinking is obvious. if we can try him. the son-in-law of bin laden here in federal government why can't we try somebody like this? i think there has been some arguments suggesting that guantanamo is more appropriate because he's a dangerous individual or the fact the involve in the attack other seas. we have consistently seen how u.s. federal governments are certainly very appropriate place to be trying these kind of cases and we have seen these individuals, when they go up against the federal judge, they lose. if there's evidence and it's compelling and a jury sees that they lose and go to jail. obviously if you see the sentences people get in federal government in terrorism case, they are far more substantial than most of the sentences we have given in gitmo. >> we're going leave it there.

thank you. an interesting note from our nbc news wall street journal poll. 59% oppose closing guantanamo bay. 26% are in favor of it. that same poll some 44% said that the obama administration should not have made the prisoner exchange to secure the release of former p.o.w. bowe bergdahl. americans are split evenly whether the details should matter in making the deal. it shouldn't have matter in making the deal at all. the reintegration team in texas said he's being introduced to news coverage. he still hasn't been reunited with his parents but is adapting to life back here in the united states. including a request for peanut butter. back to iraq where security officials tell nbc news that baghdad airport may be the next target of isis terrorists who are going after key infrastructure in an attempt to

cripple and isolate iraq's capital. overnight fighters with the al qaeda offshoot attacked iraq's largest oil refinery. nbc news cannot verify the latest video but apparently militants control most of the plant, we're told. joined by msnbc colonel jack cay jobs. he's here to talk about the efforts to protect the call tal which is vulnerable on many fronts. let's start with the latest attack three hours north of baghdad. what is the thinking there? what is the strategy in taking over the oil refinery. how might it affect baghdad? >> it's actually the single largest refinery in iraq. and most of the oil that is produced by iraq is shipped overseas is crude but they refine it for domestic use for the stuff they need like caro

seen and the gasoline. the purpose is to make life difficult for iraqis and millions of people that live in the greater baghdad metropolitan area. already there are lines -- gasoline lines, calines in the baghdad that the expectations of distribution of fuel is going to be cut off. long lines and rationing taking place already. >> let's talk about the securing baghdad and the surrounding area there. what is the greatest challenge. is that change more difficult now than president obama has ruled out manned u.s. air strike, at least for now. reportedly ruled them out. >> it's difficult for the iraqis, of course, and for us to influence the action. it's going to be difficult for the isis people. they don't want to fight any kind of protracted battle inside baghdad. i mean, fighting in urbanter rain is difficult at the best of time but extremely difficult for

isis. they prefer to do something you're already starting to see. that is a terror campaign in an isolated baghdad. ultimately you can see how close the airport is to downtown baghdad and where the american embassy is located. ultimately may come down the following, the requirement to get americans who are in the green zone and in baghdad over to the airport to get out. and then all the talk about not having any air strikes all bets are off. we don't want to have any collateral damage. if it comes down to the unlikely event we're going have to get americans out and to the airport, we'll use air strikes no matter the consequences in baghdad. >> colonel jack, thank you. a program note for you. colonel jacobs travelled to the hometown of the latest medal of honor recipient. kyle carpenter. they talked about his injury and the honor as well.

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tornados ripped through the northeast part of nebraska. it hit near the town of coral ridge. it's about 30 miles from the twister that destroyed the town of pilger. the national weather service confirmed it's an ef-4 tornado. it's one notch under the strongest category of storms. 5-year-old calista was killed. her sister managed to escape with a few scrape.

today 74 million people are under some sort of threat for severe weather. including everyone, as you can see there, everyone in the northern central plains and the ohio valley. to the latest. joe biden will be meeting with the president in guatemala friday with hopes of stopping the surge of undocumented children who have entered this country illegally over the past few month. he'll be meeting with officials from honduras. against the backdrop of what is happening on the border, yesterday the white house honored ten champions of change. kids who are able to stay here because of the deferred action. all of them were brought into the united states as children without legal status. esther was one of the honor ree at the event yesterday at the white house. she's a reporter for fink

progress who covers immigration and has been covering extensively the children crossing the border. talk about your experience and how has the president's deferred action program how has the plan helped you specifically? >> hi, craig. thank you for having me on your show. i appreciate it. let me tell you about the experience at the white house yesterday. it was a humbling experience to be on stage, on the panel with nine other amazing daca success stories. it was emotional for me to be able to hear the stories of other people who have gone through similar circumstances as i have. but, you know, the white house event is so much more than just the ten of us. it's not just about our success stories. it's also about the 550,000 daca recipients who have qualified for it and it's about the potential undocumented students who can qualify. as for my experiences, i have

had nothing but greatness happen to me ever since i got daca. i now work at an amazing organization with incredibly supportive people. and, you know, i now finally, for the first time in my life, i have a steady life. i have a steady income. i can finally apply for auto payment for my rent. i can finally contribute more as a taxpayer and now i'm a consumer. >> there were, of course, some critics of the event including members of congress candace miller, chair of the house border committee subcommittee. she called the event tone deaf in a newsreel. she went on to say, quote, how can we expect to dispel rumors throughout central america that children who enter america illegal will bely allowed to stay while simultaneously touting the success story of a few children granted de facto amnesty. how do you respond?

>> i have to say. these are two separate issues. for one thing, these -- this humanitarian crisis that is happening at the border, the kids who are coming into the country now. first of all, they're fleeing violence. so and they would not qualify for daca. i think some people in congress are conflating the two events. people who qualify for daca came into the country before june 15, 2007 they have to fulfill certain requirements. >> esther, thank you and congratulations. >> thank you very much. coming gop political positioning party leaders are meeting right now to talk about who is going to fill eric cantor's majority leader role. we'll go to the capitol for a live report on the other side of this break. [ male announcer ] new gain flings!

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support iraq. we have accelerated our fmf program with iraq. but we can't dictate outcomes. >> that was defense secretary chuck hagel a few moments ago testifying before a senate appropriations subcommittee. again, that testimony wrapping up just a few moments ago. defense secretary chuck hagel meanwhile in the lower chamber, on the house side 24 hours from now, the gop will be officially holding the leadership elections to replace fallen leader eric cantor. the official jockeying has been going on all morning in the closed-door meeting of the basement of the house. speaker boehner just e americaed from the meeting. he was mum on the leadership race. join me from the hill luke. take us inside, sir. give us color what is coming out of the meeting. >> well, it's no surprise that

kevin medicare car thi kevin mccarthy looks to be in pretty good shape to replace cantor. he has the endorsement of cantor. the leadership has paved the way for him. and raul who comes from idaho is a tea party guy is going to top out at 50 vote. the real race is the race for the whip the number three position. the real race is between steve who louisiana, and a guy named perths are kin from illinois. he comes from a district in obama won if 2008. while he's trying to make the point i would be someone who knows how to perhaps win on the national stage and bring the party to those victories. in the house republicans through the way in which districts are drawn said they want someone who is more conservative. so it's fair to say the slight favorite right now, even though he's already in the leadership

as chief deputy whip would be steve from louisiana. he's a red state guy. i have to tell you with so many house republicans i spoke to, craig, said we want someone who is a red state republican in the number three role who understands the conservative measures we're trying to push. john boehner comes from a blue state. we want a red state guy. we have to say he's a slight favorite. but you never quite know what will happen inside. you don't know what favorites are being dolled out. the pennsylvania delegation said they want to vote as a block. we'll see how it will play out. >> let's talk about mccarthy. it sounds like he has the inside track on becoming the next ma r majority leader in the house. what can we expect from mccarthy in terms of leadership, and style of leadership? >> he's a affable regarous guy. he's made a real effort to

become friendly with everybody in the house gop conference. however, as we have talked before, craig, he's had some real difficulty getting them to vote on some of the more controversial bills. that's been embarrassing not only for himself but speaker boehner. eric cantor, i think it's fair to say, probably pressed his colleagues harder than mccarthy did. the majorly leader role, i expect to see the same california-laid back leadership. but in terms of crafting the message and pushing that, because mccarthy is a lot more of a affable will be warmer. mccarthy doesn't like to talk about hot button issues. the rank and file direct with the conference goes they've never been direct bid the leadership that much. >> and i think that's probably a great spot to leave it. our man on the hill. good see you, as always. that's wrapping up this hour here. i'm craig. next on "news nation."

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good morning to you. in for tamron hall. this is "news nation." we breaking news. the united states patent and trademark office cancelling federal trademark for the washington red skins. the office calling the football team's name disparaging to native americans. federal law prohibits the disparaging language. the landmark kale was filed on behalf of five native americans. it st the latest side that the tide is turning on the controversial name. so far there no comment from the team itself. joining us now washington post editor of the early lead sports

blog. cindy, this is a sbuubject you know well. you began with the post as a nfl red skin editor. you can answer better than most. when it happened, what was your reaction and how big a blow is it to the team and what it means for them going forward? >> well, you know, this actually happened once before in the late '90s. a group of native americans sued the trademark issued a similar ruling and wound the way through the courts for 17 or 18 years, and finally the court determined that it had gone on too long. and they overturned the ruling. well, here we are again now with a new group, a younger group of native americans lead by amanda blackhorse in the lawsuit. and i think it's it gets a lot more attention than it did before. it was a washington story before. now it's a big national. maybe it helps maybe this is where it begins to turn the